The Couple Squatting Next Door

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By Jerilee Wei

The New Jones' Living Next Door

In a world, where we seldom know our next door neighbors, some things fly under the radar. For the last six months, the couple next door seemed like anyone else in the neighborhood. They were by all accounts, a nice well-groomed couple, with two young kids, two shiny cars, a dog, and a cat. They planted flowers in their yard, washed their cars, chauffeured the kids to and from school, and both seemed to go to work everyday.

The family next door moved last week. In a state, where the population is a revolving door, and in a housing boom-bust crisis mode, neighbors moving in and out is nothing new. Nor, is the phenomenon of them moving during the night unusual. What is odd, is that the nice hard working couple next door, were squatters. They neither owned, nor rented the house, or had permission to be on the property they were living in.

This was easy for them to accomplish, when subdivisions designed for six hundred homes, are mostly deserted ghost towns, with only a handful of houses, and the rest vacant lots. Half the houses built are empty. Half the houses occupied are rented.

Adding to the mix of the problem, many homes are owned by absentee owners (mostly from United Kingdom who invested heavily in new homes in our state). It was a hugely popular investment, both for flipping in the former skyrocketing market, and as rentals to afford them vacations in tourist land. Some were using these homes as businesses (rentals) as a back door into immigrating.

Squatter's family and dugout, Bad Lands [Badlands].
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Squatter's family and dugout, Bad Lands [Badlands].
Source: New York Public Library, Public Domain via Wikimedia Commons

Here Today Gone Tomorrow, Or Maybe Not

The new Jones' who once lived next door, certainly weren't the first squatters I've encountered or heard of. As kids growing up in the American west, stories of "squatters on your land" was part of the fabric that made up the Western movies and television shows.

Stepping back in American history, if you think about it, we all started out as a bunch of squatters on Native American lands. Later, I guess to justify our outright theft of real property belonging to others, we wrote ourselves a bunch of laws that were the foundation of preemption policies. With the Preemption Act of 1841, our government actually recognized the rights of squatters and called it homesteading.

Nice governmental way of getting money for land in the form of taxes, that they never owned in the first place with respect to public lands.

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Robert Louis Stevenson, portrait by Girolamo Nerli (1860-1926)
Robert Louis Stevenson, portrait by Girolamo Nerli (1860-1926)
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The Silverado Squatters

More famous for his book, Treasure Island, Robert Louis Stevenson wrote a travelogue about his honeymoon in 1883, titled The Silverado Squatters. Treasure Island and The Silverado Squatters were both published in the same year.

In The Silverado Squatters, he detailed how he and his wife, while somewhat low on cash, squatted for two months in the mining camp, Silverado, California.

We've Known A Few of the Jone's Clan Before

My first real life encounter with one of this collective mindset, came as a young wife who was assigned the task of collecting rent from my husband's tenants. We'd rented out a small wooden "Florida cracker shack" to a nice young couple with a little girl. This style of house wasn't much, just a wooden house built before Florida had a building permitting system, the kind that come from those whose minds need no blueprints or architects.

Between the house's condition, age, and the neighborhood all potential tenants were either poor or unreliable, certainly no one stayed long term if they became able to do better. Still, to this young family, it appeared we were offering them a "dream house" complete with a quiet fenced in yard. They were just so grateful and full of plans to plant a vegetable garden, etc. that we waived all cautions, even a security deposit.

All was well, for the first two months, then the rent didn't arrive. We waited a few extra days before I made the trip over to inquire as to what problems that they might have in coming up with the rent. Surprise! Surprise! That nice young couple had rented out "their house" to a bunch of frat guys at the local university. They were even smart enough to collect a security deposit before they skipped the state.

You work with what you've got sometimes, so we agreed to let the new tenants stay, as long as they paid the rent the next month. Of course, they moved out before we collected another month's rent, and apparently they had one hell of a moving party. Not only was the place trashed, but the appliances went missing this time. It took us weeks to get the house cleaned and rent-able again.

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Florida Squatters Rights

In Florida, there is a legal loophole that can make moving squatters off of your property a difficult, and sometimes impossible task. All they have to do is receive mail at the property for more than thirty days

Then Came Auggie

While we were running an ad for new tenants, with few calls and none interested enough to even look inside, we had no occasion to check on the house for a couple of weeks. Needless to say, the first time we had a bonafide inquiry to show the property, I was a little shocked to arrive early, and find the house was occupied. Not only was it lived in, it was very lived in.

I was greeted at the door by a man who identified himself as "Auggie." Standing on both sides of him were two lunging doberman pinchers. Auggie was given to the leather biker style of fashion. The very noticeable machete he wore, in the back of his cut off jeans shorts -- was an alarming reality in terms of what type of non-tenant I was dealing with. Other clues that I didn't grasp immediately, were the thirteen autos in and around the yard, all in various states of disrepair.

He refused to move out. Auggie knew that by Florida law, it was going to be real hard for us to have him removed from the property. His exact words to me that day, the ones that were repeatable were:

"You do anything you want lady, call all the police you want, there is nothing they can do to evict me." Sadly, in terms of him being a squatter, he was right.

It took three months to evict our "tenant." It was only when the police determined that he was running a stolen auto ring, and parting out the parts, that was he hauled off. There are not enough words to describe the mess Auggie, his friends, and those dogs did while squatting there.

Squatters Facts

  • A squatter is someone who takes possession to land that they no legal title to, don't own, don't rent, and doesn't have permission to use.
  • Individuals or groups usually do this in urban areas, especially blighted areas of large cities.
  • One in every seven humans on the planet are technically "squatters."
  • It's estimated there are one billion or more squatters around the world.
  • Squatting is a crime in some countries.
  • Squatting is simply a landowner vs. occupants disagreement in other countries.
  • Sometimes squatters can legally take possession of the properties and become the owners.
  • Some squatted upon properties are not used for personal residences, but for all sorts of businesses.
  • In some countries the owners of vacant buildings will remove all toilets, plumbing, and fixtures to discourage squatting.
  • In some countries, properties are lived in by squatters who have been there for decades.
  • Common law in some countries, dictates that squatters can own the land after a certain number of years by adverse possession.
  • There is even a The Squatters’ Handbook, popularized and published by a charitable organization in London.

 

Squatting Around The World Facts

Brazil-- In Brazil there are over ½ million squatters just in Rio de Janeiro alone. Beyond that, there are an estimated over twenty-five million squatters across the country. Add another almost two million squatters in rural squatter efforts throughout the country -- and it's clear that Brazil has a huge problem, not likely to be solved any time soon

Mexico -- The paracaidistas alight in vacant areas and float among the downtown areas in the large cities of Mexico. Here, they have rights if they can show five years of peaceable occupation. Many residents in Mexico City and Nezahalcovotl came into their properties by this method.

Scotland -- has a dim view of squatting. Land owners can evict squatters without notice or any legal intervention as long as they are not violent to the illegal squatter.

South America -- Common throughout South America, and a persistent problem even in areas where the authorities intervene, the mentality of squatting is alive and well in South America. In some South American countries, squatters form whole communities and once recognized, they improve their often home-made dwellings. Some communities eventually accept the inevitable and agree to provide them public services.

Switzerland-- Squatters in Switzerland have concentrated their presence in Berne, Geneva, Winterthur, Lausanne, and Zurich. In Geneva it has been a long standing battle concentrated, by the efforts of an organization of RHINO in which the local authorities have had some success in combating. The real land owners and authorities seem to be winning the battle.

United States-- In the U.S. squatting laws are different across the states, and different municipalities within those states. A lot of times, it boils down to the owner’s knowledge, or apathy upon the part of neighbors -- as to squatters even being noticed. In many parts of America, squatters are often homeless people squatting in either underground places, or vacant land hopeful of development. In these cases, the authorities often look the other way until the landowner, realtors, or others complain.

Squatters in Factories - Spain

Cyber Squatters

As if we didn’t have enough to worry about with squatters on real property, now our world includes cyber squatting or domain name jacking. Under the Federal Anti-cyber squatting Consumer Protection Act, the Internet theft of a domain name, with the intent of making money off a well-known or trademark -- solely to resell the name back to the person or company for huge profits -- is illegal.

Far worse, is the practice of some cyber squatting trashing the good name of a trademarked product, celebrity, or service.

Squatters Organic Amber Ale

Perhaps the only squatters I want to see in my neighborhood are those that come in the bottle, in the form of organic beer.  I'm no beer drinker, but I've heard that Squatters Organic Amber Ale is one of the best brands of organic beers.    You'll find this product in Salt Lake City, Utah.

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 19 months ago

Thanks ptosis! Lots of people have that problem these days.

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ptosis Level 3 Commenter 19 months ago

I've got a squatter in my house and he won't leave :(

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 20 months ago

Thanks electricsky!

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electricsky 20 months ago

Thanks for the interesting hub.

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Hummingbird5356 Level 2 Commenter 2 years ago

An excellent hub. Some squatters are genuinely in a bad way and desperate for somewhere to live but there are people who would never pay bills even if they have the money. They take advantage and run away when they know the end of their illegal squatting is in sight. Then they just squat somewhere else.

They are just thieves, pure and simple.

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks aguasilver! Very interesting and informative insights.

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aguasilver Level 6 Commenter 2 years ago

Hi Jerilee, I must say that in my time I have been a squatter, been a landlord, tenant,rental manager, real estate agent, property developer, speculator, investor and constructor.

So I have a reasonable handle on the property aspects!

Good informative hub and one which obviously hit the mark with many folk and provided education...no wonder it's a 90!

1. The way out of the current situation is to change one law, which would state that any loan made when the borrower could clearly demonstrate that they were financially inadequate to qualify for that loan,at the time it was granted, was cancelled with no redress to the lender if the loan fell into default and it was subsequently proven that the defect was with the lenders due diligence over the borrowers ability to repay.

2. Banks own the property that is being squatted, there may be your name on the title deed, but right underneath is a legal charge which overrides any rights you may think you have, or had. So the bank owns it, and good luck to those who utilise that asset whilst the bank is more concerned about massaging it's books in order to escape bankruptcy.

3. I dislike anybody who abuses anything they are in charge of.

All authority comes with responsibility and apart from dire poverty stopping someone maintaining a property, there is no excuse for any damage caused as a tenant or squatter....or landlord or owner either for that matter.

In the house we squatted (in the 70's) the owners (an estate trust) only found out we existed because the 'nice' official neighbours called the owners managing agents to say how pleased they were that they had finally rented the house out.

Obviously the owners started moving to eviction immediately and we arrived 'home' to find a security guard at the door, not to keep us out, but to protect our things inside.

When I spoke with the managing agent, they said that ours was the first squat they had repossessed that was in better condition when they reclaimed it than when they left it empty... and offered us a large penthouse apartment in Pimlico or Chelsea (Central London) for a peppercorn rent IF we would be available to take care of their old lady tenants ...

We lived almost rent free for 10 years and opened a local estate agency that ended up selling the estate off when father and son died in the same year and they needed to pay 70 million pounds in death duties.... we ended up owning the building we lived in and I still own the 'freehold' (ground) that the building sits upon, though we have now sold all the other flats.

So squatting can lead to some positive things as well, it depends upon the responsibility of the squatter!

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks bbenavidez!

Thanks Sally's Trove! I don't know what's behind the legislation, but think I read somewhere that it does go back to the Preemption Act as it does in many states. I knew about it, but naively thought it belonged in poorer neighborhoods, so was a little surprised to see it in a gated, security patrolled, resort community -- where even renters are screened a second time by the company trying to sell these homes.

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Sally's Trove 3 years ago

I was surprised to hear about the protection squatters enjoy in your state. Do you know what the reasoning is behind the legislation? Is it one of those laws passed generations ago but still on the books simply because no one has started an initiative to repeal it? Or perhaps it uses the Preemption Act of 1841 as precedent (that would be incredible)?

This is terrific information. Like many of your commenters, I had no idea squatting was so prevalent. Thumbs up!

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bbenavidez 3 years ago

Awesome hub, its insane to think that people would even consider taking those chances and not only taking them but not appreciating the "vacant" dwelling space and using it for a respectful benefit and use it as a stepping stone to better their life in the long run. Oh well I suppose thats the other half respect of taking an open space I suppose. Just goes to show how some people really are.

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks Madison Parker! I have zero interest in every being a landlord again. My dad used to say the "world's gone to hell in a hand-basket" which makes me think things are they way they always were, just amplified because there are now more of us on the planet.

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Madison Parker 3 years ago

I totally understand what you have been dealing with. My husband and I, when in college, bought a rental in a not so good area. We had some unbelievable experiences. I think I learned as much from that as I learned in college! Never have wanted to be a landlord since!!

Good, eye-opening hub; some people will work the system to the max and some people work their asses off and can't find a decent place to live. It's just the way of the world.

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks AppGal330! I've had some similar experiences in renting to your own horror story. I think the whole lot of them are all related.

Thanks moonlake! I bet a lot of us could write hubs about renters who did a number on us.

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moonlake Level 7 Commenter 3 years ago

Sad maybe that was the only way for the family to have a roof over their heads not that it was right but maybe they were just trying to protect their kids. squat long enough it's yours. There are old laws squatters rights in some states that are still on the books.

We once had a renter you would not believe what this guy did to our place and the credit union protected him. That's another hub.

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AppGal330 3 years ago

Great hub! I can so relate. Having been a former home owner/landlord in Florida. Ever see the movie "Pacific Heights" with Michael Keaton? Well, our tenant had! He knew all the laws that favored him (including the 30 day domicile law). We had a property manager that didn't do her job (only hired because by then we were living in TN)and didn't check out the tenant before signing the lease.

When their lease ended I traveled to FL to get the house ready for sale/rent. I arrived to find they were still in the house and the man who was supposedly so disabled he could no longer work, was in the back yard digging up ALL of our landscape plants and stealing them. I called out a Sherriff's deputy, who apparently did NOT like landlords and sided with the now former tenant. Even though I had all the documentation I needed to have him arrested! Finally the owner of the mgmt. agency arrived and we did a walk through, although I wasn't really allowed to "walk through" and was held at bay by a rather menacing doberman. The girlfriend he had living there verbally assaulted me and threatened to kick my a-- if I didn't leave "HER HOUSE". I informed her that she was not even supposed to be there and if she laid a hand on me she would end up spending her 4th of July weekend in jail. Geesh, it took 2 more days and with the help of some old law enforcement friends, I got them out. They had literally destroyed our house! Ripping wiring from the walls, I assume to sell the copper. It was almost laughable that three weeks later I received a letter from his attorney informing me of a "threatened civil action" for their illegal eviction!! Fortunately, our long time family attorney wrote a letter for me informing their atty. of the actual facts and the lawsuit was dropped. It was about 6 months later, my younger sister called excitedly informing me of this man's arrest. Seems he'd made quite a huge amount of money while living in our house, as a drug dealer! He, the girlfriend and his son had moved into a house they were purchasing that sold for over $100K. Seems they'd been being watched for some time and made the fatal error of bringing in a U-Haul truck full of marijuana, parked it inside the garage and went to bed. I would've loved to have been a fly on the wall when they got the "wake-up call" from the local S.O. and the DEA!

Just goes to show that sometimes, just sometimes....what goes around, comes around. Although vengance was not mine, I did read the newspaper story with a HUGE grin on my face. Couldn't have happened to a nicer couple!

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

I don't know what happened here but two comments -- one from Aya and another both disappeared after I approved them. Wasn't me I'm pretty sure.

Thanks Eric Smart and Dorsi!

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Dorsi Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

Interesting hub- I hadn't heard the word "squatters" for many years. I hadn't even thought of this as an issue but obviously it is- you have firsthand experience of that one!

Real eye-opener! Thumbs up!

Erick Smart 3 years ago

I never even thought about this before being an issue. I could see how here in the US the large amount of foreclosures could create the same situation.

Though I do have to admit I lived in Telluride over Y2K and we joked about taking over Tom Cruise's house if the world stopped working as it should. But that is a different story!

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

Aya -- Emotionally, I'm all over the place on the subject of the homeless.  Eventually I'll write a few hubs about this. 

I've been homeless once and near homeless twice by making bad choices when I was younger.  Then, I've seen a lot of the homeless, both here and abroad.  I've touched on it slightly with another hub http://hubpages.com/hub/On-the-Streets-of-Shenzen-

As a young woman on Capitol Hill, I did work some with activist Mitch Snyder.  Having lived in and out of Florida for decades, there is a part of me that has a very dim view of the "professional" homeless here in America, even though my heart goes out to them.  You can't go anywhere here without being harassed or pan handled.  Kids can't even use the very nice libraries we have here without encountering them and being bothered for money and to go with them.  Barnes and Noble isn't very safe either.  Nor, are many big box stores and a host of other places safe from sometimes very agressive individuals.  Stop at a stop light and it's likely they'll either be knocking on your window, or standing with a card board sign.  Offer them food and some will get mad because they want money.

Still, the new face of the homeless is a completely different thing.  Now we're seeing women and children -- that is so alarming.  I heard just yesterday that the situation has now got people who are seeking a divorce, not arguing as they once did about "who gets the house" -- they are now arguing "who gets stuck with the house and the payments."

With respect to the housing boom, I think it's one the biggest sins that helped lead us into the impossible situation, we as a country are now it.  I fault the government, realtors, greedy contractors, the banks, the lenders -- and the buyers. 

Loans were made to people who had no business getting them, and no hope of sustaining their monthly payments once the adjustable rates soared.  They were loaned the money with the full knowledge of the lenders knowing they were in over their heads. 

Peculiar to Florida, is that the real estate high prices were largely fueled by international buyers speculating in the booming market.  I'm sure this also happened in other tourist economy driven states.  Many were getting a bargain because of the currency exchange rates.  Personally, it seems wrong to me that our country has been up for sale to the highest bidder, for a very long time, with no oversights as to who can own our land. 

Another factor that plays into it, is like when people go to sell personal belongings, often the value perceived by the seller, isn't reality -- it can be a mindset of "well, so-and-so, got X amount of dollars two years ago -- and our house is worth so much more. 

A realtor friend recently told me that some of the more well off real property brokers are quietly buying up "bargains" as people bail.  The mindset is that somehow the government is going to cut them some sweet heart bailout deals, similar to what the banks got.  I don't know how true that is.

Real estate prices have dropped dramatically here.  $300,000 houses last year are now going for far less.  Short sales and foreclosures an everyday occurance.  Virtually no one is looking at the many vacant houses in our development, none have been sold or rented in the last year.  It's like living in a ghost town. 

I think it's the local realtors, good ol' boy contractors long married to the local government that's keeping things artificially high.  None of them want to admit how bad it really is, all of them trying to figure out to come out ahead.  It's a hot topic in this house, as you'll read in the near future.

Thanks!

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Aya Katz Level 4 Commenter 3 years ago

Jerilee, in response to what Netters had to say, I think there is another weird aspect of our economy that prevents the price of real estate from going down as low as it should when there is such a glut on the market. This effect is in fact something that creates homelessness.

The housing boom was created artificially when the government enabled easy lending. Now that there is a glut, it seems that somehow the price of real estate is being kept artificially high, so that the economy can't straighten itself out. What do you think about that? Why hasn't real estate bottomed out?

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks J_Eds! No, I don't think it's just you, but it is the accepted name in English speaking countries.

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J_Eds 3 years ago

Is it just me that thinks the word "squatter" is really horrible... It just brings horrble things to mind :S

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks johnny yuma1! Your question is a very valid one that I don't know the answer to.

johnny yuma1 3 years ago

I did know what squatters are, but didn't know that squatting is so prevalent. I have always wondered, though, why they are called squatters. Why not sitters? Afterall we sit in the house we don't live. In the old days when they squatted on the land, it was more like sitting too wasn't it? They worked the land all day trying to clear it and get it liveable and farmable, but at night they sat in the house where they actually lived. All the suatting they did was the ladies when they were going to the pee were squatting other than that not really much squatting going on. So, just how did they come up with the name?

I love the hub, but I am serious about the name thing. I just don't understand that at all. I have always been curious about it.

Johnny Yuma

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks Triplet Mom! It's definitely a sign of the times that is quite alarming as to the message is sends on some level to those children who no doubt move frequently.

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Triplet Mom Level 3 Commenter 3 years ago

Wow Jerilee, I am familiar with squatters but not on such a professional level. This is kind of sad but amazing if the kids were really going to school and the parents to work. I guess that would be an alternative to being homeless but still such a comentary on the times right now. Thanks for this hub its an eye opener.

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks Netters! I try not to be judgmental, but we live in an area where there are so many professional homeless. Still you can't really know what to think when families are losing thier homes, their credit is trashed because of it, and may not be able to afford or get approved for a rental.

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Netters 3 years ago

I think it's a darn shame when homeless people have to resort to this. But I think it's better than having kids living on the streets. With so many empty houses now, maybe that could be a solution to the homeless problem.

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks Aya! We learned about it when the realtor who was "managing" the property for the international owners, came knocking on the door. He was trying to see if anyone knew them well enough, to give information in tracking them down. Apparently, they left no forwarding address. Rumors are down at the amenity center, that the real owners were here on vacation and just happened to drive by. They thought the realtor had rented the house out and hadn't told them and was keeping their money.

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Aya Katz Level 4 Commenter 3 years ago

Jerilee, great story! It certainly doesn't pay to be a landlord, especially with the "US" versus "THEM" mentality that many tenants develop. When the law is on their side, eviction can be a nightmare.

BTW, how did you find out your nice, normal looking neighbors were squatters?

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks LondonGirl, yxhuang, and Reynolds_Writing!

Thanks goldentoad! Don't feel bad, when I was young and fresh out of the military, I'm pretty sure I would have thought they were refering to the squats we had to do in basic training. LOL

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Reynolds_Writing 3 years ago

Jerilee.. You have a gift for choosing fascinating topics, like squatters, then writing about them in a compelling, interesting, yet concise way. Great job!

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yxhuang 3 years ago

I see this hub gets many "WOWs". I am giving a "WOW", too.

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goldentoad 3 years ago

I didn't know this was remotely possible. I thought the term squatter meant something totally different. way different. very informative hub.

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LondonGirl 3 years ago

Wow, nice neighbours....

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ajcor Level 1 Commenter 3 years ago

Jerilee Wei how scary is this - I don't know about australia but am going to look into it! thanks for your hub...cheers

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks Nicole Winter! Auggie definitely made a lasting impression on me, I think I was too stunned to be scared until afterwards.

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Nicole Winter Level 3 Commenter 3 years ago

Jerilee Wei: Awesome hub, the story about "Auggie" gave me chills! I can't imagine having been in your position, I'd have been scared senseless!

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks Bruce Elkin! You never know when a little extra knowledge might come in handy. The couple next door were certainly a class above the Auggie event and certainly made me think how times have changed, but not really. I didn't touch on Europe and Africa where squatting is much more known, accepted, and common place.

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Bruce Elkin 3 years ago

Thanks, JL. Great hub. And I'd like to know as much as I can about this topic, just in case I end up joining them. A friend lived in a squat in England for 3 years. Great little community, he though. Cheers!

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks rockinjoe! It's big here in Florida with so many unsold developments and an environment where no one knows who lives around them much.

Thanks Peggy W! We're in a gated resort community where 600 homes were to be built, only 24 were completed, and more than half of them are no vacant. Most of the empty ones have been empty for more than a year. Part of the fault here lays with the real estate companies so willing to "manage" these properties for international clients.

Usually, in this state, renters pay 1st, last, and a security deposit not only on the dwelling, but to all utility companies, television, and cable -- just because so many people walk away without paying.

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Peggy W Level 8 Commenter 3 years ago

Wow! Never knew that it was so widespread!

I know that renting properties is always dicey and that the ONLY protection is getting a large enough deposit in advance that HOPEFULLY will encourage the tenants to take care of the place since they will want it back upon moving elsewhere.

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rockinjoe Level 2 Commenter 3 years ago

I've heard of this. It's becoming a bigger situation with the housing crisis here in the Northeastern US. The trouble is, squatters taking up residence in abandoned or foreclosed homes aren't dealt with because the banks know their properties are being kept up as well (if not better) than they would keep them up. It's a shame.

Great hub and very topical subject:)

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Jerilee Wei Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks oparu! It's a lot more widespread than most people know.

Thanks mdvaldosta! Because of our past experience with Auggie, I knew about it but didn't connect the term "squatter" to the crime.

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mdvaldosta 3 years ago

Wow, I had never heard of "squatting"... an amazing idea, maybe it'd be cheaper for me if I tried that! (kidding... or am I)? Yea, I'm kidding. Promise. (?)

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oparu 3 years ago

Wow! Some of these stories are just scary.

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